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Tired of my endless yapping about housing and early retirement? Well, today we’re going to get some fresh blood on this weird little blog of ours. Today, we’re going to talk to one of my favorite early retirement bloggers, someone who I actually got to meet in person last year in Thailand, after fan-girling over his blog for years….
Jeremy…from GoCurryCracker!
GoCurryCracker is a travel/early retirement blog run by Jeremy and Winnie who retired in 2012 to travel the world. After retiring, they welcomed Julian, their awesome little dude into the world, and even though he’s only 18 months old, he’s already been to 17 different countries! Wowza!
I can’t believe how much Julian has grown since I last saw him! The first time we met, he was happily stuffing his face with fistfuls of my hair, and I was happily poking his fat baby cheeks and talking 2 octaves above my normal voice.
Now, the reason why I invited Jeremy onto the blog is to settle a score with all those haters who say you CAN’T travel the world with kids. Because yes. Yes you can.
And with that, let’s bring in the man himself. Jeremy, thanks for being on Millennial-Revolution.com!
When I tell people you can absolutely travel the world with kids, they look at me like I’m crazy. Then I tell them about you, but they refuse to believe you exist. Do you exist, Jeremy?
I’ve never doubted my own existence until this very moment. If it is impossible to do what we are doing, perhaps it is all an illusion. Or maybe we are a delusion you’ve created to convince yourself that retiring early and traveling the world with children isn’t a pipe dream. Now we both have a good reason for an existential crisis. So thanks for that.
Anytime, good Buddy. Anytime.
Incidentally, how is Winnie doing? She looked really tired the last time I saw her and neither of us were helping. I remembered complaining about having a headache from “sleeping too much that day” and you, I believe, were trying to nab the last piece of smokey chicken off her plate when she wasn’t looking. She was glaring at us pretty hard (and we totally deserved it).
I just asked Winnie how she is doing and she said “I was fine… until you ate the last piece of chicken!”
(We had Thai style chicken for dinner tonight…)Back then Julian was still breast feeding and not yet sleeping through the night, so that is definitely an exhausting time. Now Julian is running, climbing, and jumping all the time. He’s also in that phase where he likes to throw everything on the floor. All of that makes for a different kind of tired.
People say kids are SO expensive. Are they expensive? How many kidneys did you have to sell since Julian was born?
We are still a 6 kidney family. People like to say that kids are expensive, but what they really mean is that they like to spend a lot of money on their kids.
But what is really going to blow their mind is that Julian’s first year of life was actually a source of profit for us! Child related stuff cost less than the tax credits and deductions we received. That’s my boy!
And yes, he has clothes, toys, books, a bike, eats well, goes swimming, etc…
Yeah, cut the crap Jeremy. How many litres of blood will you be selling to put Julian through college?
My plan B is to sell all of them. I got that idea from the Baby Boomer Retirement Playbook.
Or maybe since we knew about college expenses at least 20 years in advance, might we have actually planned, saved, and invested for them? Nah, that would be crazy.
Planning ahead? Most of my friends with young kids tell me they are barely keeping themselves alive! One said she used to have hobbies and friends, now her only goal in life is keeping herself fed and keeping her 1 year old fed. And yet, you guys managed to TRAVEL the WORLD with a toddler. How is that possible? And if you’re on some sort of energy-enhancing drug, where can I get some?
I thought it was you who had the energy-enhancing drug! Or maybe that is just youth…
Unless you outsource your child rearing to others, being a little tired is an expected and normal part of parenting.
And no offense to Toronto (I’ve only been once in the winter), but being tired in Barcelona or Tokyo or on a beach in Mexico is way cooler than being tired in Toronto.
You haven’t lived until you’ve had to ram your way out of an eight-foot snowdrift to get to a job you hate. But enough about me being bitter. From your blog, I see a ton of travel pictures before having kids. How has travel changed before and after having kids?
It’s really not that different.
We move a little slower, and since we have more stuff we check bags rather than try to fit everything into carry on. We also spend less time in bars and more time in parks. And maybe we eat a little healthier to make sure we are setting a good example.
What do your friends and family think of your “nomadic with kids” lifestyle? Especially since Winnie told me her mom has some pretty hardcore traditional Taiwanese values. Speaking from personal experience, I’m guessing that didn’t go over well?
We were an International family before we had kids, so it is expected and understood that we will split time between at least 2 countries. It’s not much of a stretch to make that 20 countries, and everybody seems to be doing well with the current arrangement.
We have regular Skype calls with family on both sides, and plan family travel to make sure we spend time together. My Mom and Grandma flew to Taiwan when Julian was born, we were in Taiwan for Julian’s first birthday with Grandma, and we just spent two weeks with my extended family in the US. We also had Winnie’s Mom visit us in Thailand, and on a few occasions friends and family have made plans to meet up with us elsewhere on the road.
There are definitely some positives to having friends and family be on vacation when they visit. We get a whole week or more of quality time together in a joyful place, rather than just a dinner or a few hours on a weekend scheduled around work and school activities.
Ever get the urge to “act like responsible adults”, buy a house and settle down? How would you respond to: “Kids need stability. You can’t NOT buy a house when you have kids. You can’t TRAVEL when you have kids. You can’t NOT be in a good school district.”
I don’t really take advice from insufferable A-holes who want to force their worldview onto others, so I probably would just ignore them and not respond at all. (Seriously, how mentally stable are you if your writing angry comments on Yahoo?) Better is to find the people who are already doing the impossible and learn from them… embrace what works, improve what you can, and pay it forward by sharing with others.
My own insufferable opinion is that if you try to give your kids everything, you are likely to lose them and/or yourself in the process. Money issues and work stress are leading causes of impatience at best and divorce or estrangement at worst. And all of this just to buy an overpriced house so other people at a “good” school can raise and teach your kids?
Real stability begins when you can afford to spend more time with your children than with your coworkers. We’ve had the luxury to already spend more waking hours with Julian at age 18 months than some parents are able to do in 18 years. Learning and play and travel all go hand in hand… Julian will learn about volcanoes by climbing one rather than building a paper mâché imitation and Roman history in Rome rather than in a textbook.
But maybe I’m wrong. Maybe being a responsible adult means taking life direction from Yahoo comments.
Nobody EVER got anything done taking life direction from Yahoo comments! If I could I would ram…OK you know what? Let’s not go down the rabbit hole of which commentors need to have what rammed down their whatever. Let’s talk about more cheerful topics. What’s the funniest thing Julian’s said or done during your world trip?
Two things come to mind:
In Granada, Spain he wandered off into a crowded tapas bar and gave everybody a royal wave as he walked by. Everybody waved back.
One evening as we were preparing for his bedtime, he took a bunch of his story books and threw them in the trash with a loud, “No!” I guess he thought it was too early to go to sleep.
Speaking as a couple who are planning on copying your moves with regards to the whole kid thing, is there anything you would have done differently?
I would have had twins the first time. We are now working on child #2… (you heard it here first.)
Second kid, huh? Have fun that that, you two! (see this is what happens when you’re retired and have WAY too much time on your hands) *makes sexy growling noise*
Now that you know all about Jeremy and Gocurrycracker.com, check out his awesome articles on the nomadic lifestyle with kids:
http://www.gocurrycracker.com/traveling-with-a-baby/
http://www.gocurrycracker.com/16-months-16-countries/
http://www.gocurrycracker.com/is-college-worth-it-with-future-tuition-predictions/
http://www.gocurrycracker.com/how-much-does-it-cost-to-raise-a-child/
Now to leave you with ridiculously cute pictures of Julian:
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This couple…and J L Collins…as guests…
are you ripping off Affordanything.com?
http://podcast.affordanything.com/31-simple-path-wealth-jim-collins/
http://podcast.affordanything.com/episode-22-jeremy-winnie-retired-forbes-go-curry-cracker/
I’m going to assume you’re joking 🙂 Because otherwise you sound crazy.
Oh gawd, whatever you do don’t interview Obama or Bob Dylan or the Pope. It’s just been done so many times that it would be, like, so cliché
I know, right? All reporters need to be more original.
Couples like Jeremy and Winnie give me hope for my future. They also give me someone to point to and say “See!!! It IS possible! So there!” Lots of people like to tell me kids are expensive and I’m screwed if I decide to have them. We’ll see… I mean, after all I’m only 26 🙂
My Grandma was a Grandma by age 30. So hurry up, the clock is ticking!
You’re only 26? Good God, I feel old now…
I’ve always been a big fan of Jeremy and Winnie because they are a great example of how we make our own choices. There’s this idea that things aren’t possible because something is always making it impossible. Travel the world with kids? No way, that’s impossible, so we won’t even try it. And what’s the worst thing in the world if they found it it couldn’t work? Move back to one place, start working again, and retool? Is that really the end of the world?
Thanks FP!
For everything that somebody says is impossible, there are already 10 people doing it.
And there are way more than 2 choices. It isn’t travel or not travel, or work or not work. There are a million different ways that people have built a life and raised healthy, happy, successful children. We’ll keep working at it and figure out what is best for ours.
Well-put. It’s so much easier to dismiss and think about “why you can’t” versus “why you can.” That’s why my favourite quote is “Whether you think you can or can’t, you’re right”. And Jeremy & Winnie have proven it.
What a wonderful post. What children need is their parents time. Being FIRE’d where you can spend that time is worth more than all the granite and “good school districts” in the world. Teaching children by allowing them to actually EXPERIENCE things, such as climbing a volcano, learning history in Rome….is going to prove better than any classroom education in the long run.
Children are expensive if you pawn off rearing them to others – daycare, private school, after school activities, toys to appease them etc.
The only area that may prove a challenge for Julian is socialization with other children….but I have full faith that GoCurryCracker can figure that one out as well….
Thanks, OlderbutWiser. Time with parents and learning that is fun go a long way. And naturally play time and fun with other kids are important too.
Fortunately lots of other people have blazed these socialization trails. I love the Internet because there is a meme for everything. But I jest. Kinda.
“The only area that may prove a challenge for Julian is socialization with other children…”
This is what friends were worried about when my aunt decided to home-school her kid (the regular curriculum wasn’t working for him so he was going around and bothering other kids). Turns out it was the best decision they ever made. His behaviour improved a lot, and he made lots of new friends because they joined a community where he can socialize with other home-schooled kids.
There’s always a solution for every challenge and, like you said, I’m sure J & W will figure it out!
Socialization with other children is highly overrated. Most kids have problems socializing with adults, and those who are NOT their age as they are thrown in with kids their own age from toddler-age.
Seriously not as necessary as many think it is. Most of the time, kids prefer to play with their parents than other kids…. it’s just that parents are too exhausted to do so.
That’s a good point. It’s more important for the parents to have the time to play with their children. I’ve seen many co-workers work crazy hours and never have time for their kids. It really sucks for them.
Great article! We’re working on financial independence and traveling with our kids. Wish I had seen Go Curry Cracker 10 years ago. It will take us longer but definitely still doable!
The good news is that FI isn’t a competition or a race. You can do it!
You can do it! As the Chinese proverb goes: ““The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.”
So many good photos!
We want to continue traveling when Mrs. Done by Forty and I start a family, but think we’ll continue to use AZ as our home base. Maybe we’ll escape for the summers for a little bouncing around Asia or Europe, but head back for the start of the school year.
I’m at least somewhat sympathetic for those who try to own in a good school district. It’s coming from a good place and, hey, there are some obvious benefits. But it shouldn’t be done if the cost is a house you can’t afford, paid with with a job you hate…
Sounds like a good plan.
A home in a good school district is a fine way to go. It works. I only lose the sympathetic view when a person crosses the line from pursuing that path to dogmatic and judgmental that this is the only way. Then they become the crazy old lady that lives with 100 cats and yells at the neighborhood kids whenever they step on her lawn.
Exactly. I get that a good school district is important, but definitely not at the cost of spending all your time at work to be able to afford it. Spending time with your kids is way more important.
I took my 6 month old back to Taiwan when we were first married, the airline gave us a special hammock for him, and the hotel in Japan had a crib waiting. We bought a backpack with a child seat, he road on my back waving at all the Taiwanese in the night marked, well what an attraction. Travelling with kids is no big deal. And its cheap or free when they are young.
It is pretty easy when they are small. We did a test trip to Japan when Julian was 5 months old, and it was way easier than being at home because he was so interested in everything. It was the first time he actually fell asleep on his own.
And before age 2 it is basically free. We bought him his first plane seat on our return trip to Taiwan since the flight was 14 hours, but that was his 18th flight.
“Travelling with kids is no big deal. And its cheap or free when they are young.”
“it was way easier than being at home because he was so interested in everything. It was the first time he actually fell asleep on his own.”
“And before age 2 it is basically free.”
This is AWESOME! Why are so many people saying it’s impossible to travel with kids again? Thanks for proving them wrong, guys!
I’m curious what happens after Julian is 5 years old and is supposed to go to school? That’s the only part that confuses me. Sure people can travel with kids before they need to go to school. Will he go to school in Thailand? Home-schooling?
This is something I’m curious to see as well – I’m keen to have my kids get some education not provided by me as it’ll reduce their bias somewhat.
On the other hand, if you don’t have a regular day job, you can afford to spend some time taking kids out of school for extended periods and help them to keep up, which is where I hope we’re at in a few years.
All of the above. Our whole family are partners in learning, which happens all day everywhere you go.
We think home / road school will be the route we go, but we’ll experiment and figure out what works best for us.
Auntie Lucy will welcome Julian on an archaeological dig as part of his education!
Yes!
Whatever you end up doing in terms of schooling, we’ll be copying your moves. *creepily lurks behind you, taking notes*
We home-school for several reasons. Flexibility, fitting a rotating 4/4 work schedule. Teaching methods tailored for the child’s learning style. My grade 3 son is doing grade 5 reading but grade 2 math, but that’s okay, when he’s mentally ready to handle more he’ll get more. In the government school kids are all taught the same thing at the same time and expected to learn all at the same pace. Kids are not clones. No bullying except by his younger brother but that’s sibling rivalry. Part of a homeschool co-op and church group and more time playing with good friends rather than the nonsense on a school bus. So really better off socially. People comment on how polite he is and thinking of others.
Thank you.
There is a recent video I enjoyed about the school system on trial (viewed 142M times as of this moment.) There are a ton of great reasons why public schools are not the best solution for a great number of people.
https://www.facebook.com/viralthread/videos/569410533248648/
ps: great name!
Interesting! Thanks for sharing your experience. It’s a good reminder that the regular school system isn’t always what it’s cut out to be.
My cousins were home-schooled and it worked out great for them. Very well-adjusted kids, polite, and incredibly intelligent. Had their parents forced them to continue in the regular school system, things wouldn’t have worked out so well. They were way ahead compared the rest of their classmates, and were so bored they were causing problems.
Cool stuff. Jeremy and Winnie have inspired us to keep on traveling and dreaming big with our own 3 (!!) kids. The youngest one (also named Julian) is sitting right here beside me staring at the GCC Julian and all these cool travel pics as I tell him “we’ll be there next year!”.
And wut wut? Trying for Kid #2? This will be interesting (gonna go grab my popcorn). I think travel is still doable even with 3, and we’ve proved it with our own trips. Take it slow and easy enough and it’s no different than staying at home with kids (aka it’s tough either way at times!).
Agree with Jeremy about it being much nicer to be exhausted from caring for a kid while you’re in a beautiful place instead of 8 feet deep in a snow drift in Toronto (“Toro not” might be a better name for several months during winter 😉 ).
I’ve figured out age 4-5 is the sweet spot where traveling with kids goes from “challenging” to just having another member of the family to consider (if you have five people getting ready to do anything, at least one of them will forget something or have to pee after everyone else is already out the door. Just statistics and probability).
Couldn’t agree more.
Have you ever considered alternative school options, or are you pretty happy with the local schools?
I’ve considered home schooling and some kind of overseas school.
Overseas school probably means private school ($$$ for 3 kids) unless I can stay in one spot for a whole year and squeeze into a good public school (which also means we’re probably not somewhere low cost like Mexico).
Homeschooling is well within our budget ($500/kid, maybe a bit more) but I don’t know if I have the patience. And I don’t think I want to devote the time to it.
I’m also not certain I could do better than the teachers at our local schools, especially in the early years and the very advanced courses in the later years.
I’m very happy with our local schools. The oldest 2 kids got into the best school in our very large school district and are doing well so far. This also entitles them to the top notch high school that Mrs. Root of Good and I both attended (think: last 2 years = college level courses; might save 1.5-2 years of college $ this way).
Our neighborhood elementary school gets better every year and offers small class sizes and an engineering focused curriculum. The teachers seem to enjoy being there too (to the extent one can enjoy any job). In what I consider a plus for someone like us that aren’t nonstop global travelers but value the exposure to other cultures, it’s also extremely diverse and it’s pretty common to have people from every continent and subcontinent (other than Antarctica and Australia) in each class.
“I’ve figured out age 4-5 is the sweet spot where traveling with kids goes from “challenging” to just having another member of the family to consider…”
Good to know! I’m learning so much from all you parents out there.
And Justin, you are next on my list to interview about retiring and travelling with more than one kid…(Because I guarantee someone’s going to say ” but but but GoCurryCracker only has 1 kid..*eye roll*)
Bring it on! 🙂
I think I’ve got a different perspective from GCC since my oldest is 11. Of course our kids have always known living in one house for 9-11.5 months per year and traveling the other month or three.
For us, the home base comes down to convenience. It’s easy and we enjoy the comforts of staying put. School is easy and stable (and free!). They have many of the same friends that they met in kindergarten. Our family is also all local and we see them at least weekly (sometimes too much lol).
We still manage to get away for several weeks (or more) each summer when they aren’t in school, and these vacations perfectly align with the worst weather here in NC (HOT and HUMID), so we get to keep the best parts of Raleigh while ditching the part we don’t like.
Good for them. However they might change their minds and start craving a home (rented fine) when 1) they have a second child (so much more exhausting than one), especially if child has any health issues, and 2) when kids hit school age (there is something to be said for the opportunity to make life-long friends in elementary school).
I travelled a lot when younger, but since I had kids the travel bug just disappeared. It’s coming back as they get older, though. However, as a person who was home-schooled until age 12, I am 100% deadset against it, especially for only children. It’s terribly lonely for a child to be only with their family all the time; they need playmates-the same ones to play with day in, day out-to grow into full social human beings. So I will travel with my kids in Summer’s as they get older, but I made sure to choose a place I personally could handle living for 14 years (2 kids, 2 years apart, 12 years of school). I have never lived this long in one place, but I would never do to my kids what was done to me.
Just to say, kids do funny things to people. When yours are born you will become new people, with a brand new life and dreams. You might find travelling simply doesn’t appeal to you for a while, and that too is okay. New parents who adjust easiest to parenthood are generally those who accept the fastest that their life/dreams are forever altered and somewhat restricted. Mothers generally adapt faster to this reality than fathers, as they are the first to have their freedom really, really curtailed. Yes, you can try to do everything you did before, but at the cost of sheer exhaustion (me, 1st child). Or you can give in, accept your new limitations, and focus on enjoying time with baby (me, 2nd child). Life will pick up again 5 or so years later… I stayed home for 6 years with mine, and averaged 5 hours of sleep a night because I was trying to write, etc. not recommended! Children change what you can do, like it or not…
This comment makes me sad. Especially the phrase, “I would never do to my kids what was done to me.” 🙁
Thank you for sharing.
Didn’t mean to make you sad. If you are considering distance/homeschooling, I’d really recommend talking to adults that had that experience as children (not just to parents doing it) as it’s been around for a long time. Perhaps you will find some who did like it–and then you can find out why. I hated it because it isolated me as a child and kept me in an adult world. When I did go to school I had difficulty socializing with peers (overeager for friends while acting very immature socially while also was 3 grades ahead academically). Thankfully the school saw fit to put me back 2 grades to be with kids just one year older than me. School, especially elementary, is not just about academics; it’s also about learning to be a citizen and part of society. Also, you won’t learn what your parents don’t know. In schools, children profit from exposure to numerous teachers. Just my two cents!
Fwiw, regular school can have some serious drawbacks too. My mom was a school teacher, so we had a lot of outside of school learning driven mostly by our curiosity. Being bored because I didn’t find it challenging and going to rural school while coming from a more intellectually oriented family wasn’t really helpful for fitting in either. Additionally, teacher to student ratios make it easy for kids who are having problems to slip through the cracks unnoticed.
I think for every argument, you can always find someone who proves that the opposite is true. For example, “When yours are born you will become new people, with a brand new life and dreams. You might find travelling simply doesn’t appeal to you for a while…”
I do have friends who are like that. They completely changed and made their entire lives revolve around their children. They lost their friends, their interests, basically their entire identity. I get that when you have kids, it changes you, but that doesn’t mean you should only care about your kids and nothing else. I do NOT want to become one of these people. And if you look at Winnie and Jeremy, they are still the same people. Julian is now their #1 priority, but they haven’t ditched all their dreams and friends, just because they had Julian. That would be a HUGE mistake. If you make your entire life revolve around your kid(s), what will happen once they leave the nest? Will you turn into an empty shell of a person?
And about the homeschool thing…I’m sorry to hear that it didn’t work out so well for you. For my cousin, however, it worked out great! His parents found a community of home-schooled children to interact with. When he was in the regular school system, he was miserable (the curriculum was WAY too slow for him), but with home-schooling, he has the flexibility to learn much faster and go way beyond what regular schools would’ve allowed.
It really just depends on the person.
I think it depends on the kid, and especially depends on the parents. I was homeschooled until high school, and then did that via correspondence (so, also at home). I have…very mixed feelings about homeschooling in general, but then, it’s not like school is perfect either.
My parents were not capable of either parenting well or educating well; they shouldn’t have had kids to begin with, and they certainly shouldn’t have been schooling them. One of the problems with homeschooling is that usually no one is really vetting what you’re doing (or any checks are pretty minimal), and it’s up to the parents to self-assess their own competency. And you know that Dunning-Kruger study? Incompetent people never recognize that in themselves. My mother thought, and will always think, that she’s pretty much perfect, despite the fact that two of her four kids haven’t even spoken to her in years. :/ (I’m one of them, and good riddance.)
I do have a friend who homeschools her kids and does it with dedication and thoroughness. It works well for her family (and gives me a bit of mental whiplash when I see it, just from the contrast with my own experience). I think my main problem with homeschooling is that if you have *bad* parents, homeschooling exacerbates that a lot, and it can be a really isolating situation for the kids. Not much exposure to anyone who will report concerns about you to the appropriate authorities, either.
Not saying I think homeschooling should be illegal…homeschooling itself isn’t the root of the problem, when things go wrong. Parenting is. I’ve always wished we could figure out some better way of vetting people before they’re allowed to be parents. (There could be all sorts of problems with the implementation of that, so I’m not sure we want to go there as a society, but it does annoy me that you have to have a license to drive but not to parent.)
So it’s not really a problem with homeschooling…it’s a problem with parenting. Yeah, that’s a tough situation. I feel for you.
They are an inspiration to my wife and I. Had the chance to meet them in person in Japan and picked on their brains about FI. Traveling around the world with kids and being financially independence is something we’re working toward.
Kid #2? That’s totally awesome. I don’t know if having twins is the way to do it though… having two kids is significantly more work than just having one.
Hi Tawcan!
Hopefully we don’t have twins this time…
One is a beautiful number. 🙂
Is having 2 kids THAT much more work than 1? I’ve heard the argument that since there are 2 of you, you can each take care of 1. It only gets crazy when the kids outnumber the parents (though Justin and Kaisorn seems to be handling 3 kids pretty damn well! :).
Maybe it depends on the kids. Some kids are WAY easier to take care of than others.
Our oldest 2 are only 17 months apart (by design), so we were knee deep in diapers and babies for a year or two. And neither kid was particularly easy 🙂
I just remember being really tired a lot. But that’s because we were both working and had 2 kids. The first 6-12 months is pretty tough with nighttime feedings and irregular sleep schedules. And our first kid didn’t sleep through the night for a couple of years (and often ended up in our bed kicking and throwing elbows all night – * I * was the one sleeping in a fetal position for self defense).
But parenthood is great 🙂 I’m not sure that 2 at one time is any worse than 1 then another 1 after 4-5 years. If you have 2 back to back, at least you’re a pro when #2 shows up on the scene. We basically forgot all the parenting tricks when kid 3 showed up.
Hard to imagine that Jasmine was difficult at any point! I was so impressed with how WELL BEHAVED your kids were when we first met you. They just stayed out of our way while we talked for 3 hours straight! How is that even possible?
After age 4-5 that’s pretty normal. Before that all bets are off. They’re also much better when around other people and at school compared to when it’s just around us. Don’t be fooled by the good behavior because they can be real demons at times 🙂
On the saving for tuition point, many governments are in the mode of handing out more tuition money the less the family earns.
Formal education is getting to the point of being overrated in a lot of areas. Most stuff can be learned online nowadays. Yes certain registrations and licenses require practicums, residencies and formally recognized training but those who can read/watch understand and think critically about what they are learning and then go out and create scenarios that give them related experience are going to much farther ahead that those that just go to college and regurgitate mindlessly back.
It cuts both ways, really. I had a lot of understanding of my profession before I went to school, but definitely didn’t know what I didn’t know. Lacking some experienced guidance in your field of endeavour can still put you quite behind.
Good point! Didn’t think of that.
Great interview and CONGRATS on possible baby #2. 🙂
I’ve been following Winnie and Jeremy’s blog and podcast interviews for awhile now. I have also read many of the ridiculous nay sayer comments directed at them and others in the FIRE community…I can’t help it, it’s just so funny to read! As Jeremy said, if you think something is impossible there is already someone doing it. Find them and learn from it…Or sit on your ass and make comments of why you could never do it or how it is impossible. We all have different priorities.
The point of this interview and the lifestyle in general is that they are spending time together as a family. Learning on the go (and yes, I realize at some point formal education is a necessity). I would have killed for an upbringing liie Julian is receiving instead of the one of divorced parents in debt both working to make ends meet. Life is what you make it and, in my opinion, they are making it!! Good in you guys!
Thank you Miss Mazuma.
Your comment gets the point perfectly.
Well said!
Wow, two little curry crackers! Two kids is definitely harder than one. The “off time” you get with one child no longer exists once you have two.
But if anyone can handle two kids and traveling all the time it has to be the GCC family. I’ve been following those guys for years and they’re always an inspiration!
Everyone keeps telling us that 2 kids are easier than 1 because they’ll play together. We know that is a lie, but are going for it anyway…
Our little boogers end up fighting over stuff just about as frequently as they “place nicely” together…so I think you’re right. It’s a big lie!
That said, good luck! You’ll need it! 🙂
Yeah, I’m very curious to find out whether that’s a lie or not. Maybe it depends on the kids’ personalities?
Every kid is different…
It’s a pleasure to find such raatintlioy in an answer. Welcome to the debate.
I’ll echo, it’s absolutely possible. Go Curry Cracker is doing it with his kid. We’re slow traveling around the world right now with 3 kids. It can be done!